theyflysohigh : Steve Marsh

Welcome to the Private memorabilia collection of 'theyflysohigh'

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George James Hone : West Ham United Director

George Webb - West Ham United 1909 - 1911

Pam Bloomfield (Great Granddaughter)

Pam Bloomfield has been researching her family history for about five years now. She traced a distant lady relative living in nearby Southend who had an old family photo album. The relative had no idea who any of the people in the album actual were. No one in our immediate family had any photos or information on the Hone family connection, the album was an absolutely "Brilliant find". Pam admitted it took a long while, but after a lot of research she virtually worked out who everyone was (well, most of them). The West Ham connection was always just talk amongst aunts and uncles. There was no firm evidence until I started searching. She has also discovered that George Hone was an inventor, uncovering copies of Patents George had taken out. Two of them were with Thames Ironworks founder Arnold Hills. "They must have been good friends" she said.

Pam has discovered so much but also know's that much more is still to be uncovered.

My connection (theyflysohigh) with Pam came about when as part of her research into her family tree "George Webb" was tapped into Google and she ended up on the "West Ham United Memorabilia Collection" site.

 

Hone household House rear John Webb George Hone George Webb

Margery Hall the Hone family home in Forest Gate

John Webb, George Hone and George Webb in their younger days

Directors in Garden

WEST HAM UNITED DIRECTORS 1901

A.C. Davis   G. Handley   C.E. Osborn   G. Hone

J. Grisdale   E. Smith   L. Johnson   J.W.Y. Cearns

Directors in the Study at Margery Hall

George Hone in Study

This photograph was taken in the rear garden of "Margery Hall" in Margery Park Road, Forest Gate.

The team used to practice in the park at the end of the road and then go back to the house for tea. Pam's two great aunts (Charlotte and Alice) used to prepare tea for team after the day's training.

George Hone relaxing Gentlemen in Garden

A stern looking George Hone

The early administrators of West Ham United

Pam's Aunt aged 82 (2010) recalls in her own words memories of George Horn and George Webb

"It's surprising how little you know about your family until you start digging. You pick up bits when you're a child and bits is all it is.

For instance, I always knew that my grandfather, George Hone, had invested a lot of money in West Ham United football team in the early 1900s. I knew about George and Jack (John) Webb, Jack's wife Ivy was my godmother, but what I didn't know was that the Webb boys were my father's half brothers.

I knew that George played football and that was it. My godmother had one of his caps which she eventually gave to my brother. I saw it once, it was lovely pink velvet with a silver tassle. I wonder if he still has it.?  

I know a lot about George Webb now and what a great footballer he was but that he couldn't turn professional because he had preferred working in the toy factory that he and his brother owned.

I am trying to trace the name of the factory but no luck so far. I believe that his wife, my aunt Nellie, kept it going after the brothers died. On one of her visits to us when I was about nine years old, she took me and my brother and sister to a toy shop and each of us was allowed to choose any toy in the shop regardless of cost and I think that had some connection with their business."

and George Webb : Player

George Webb was the Stepson of George Hone

Strong and speedy with a fierce shot, George Webb was an amateur international who also appeared in the full England team. Born in the East End, Webb was the stepson of George Hone, one of the early administrators of Thames Ironworks and a director of West Ham United. He went to school less than half a mile from Upton Park and in August 1905 took part in a pre-season trial, aged 18. Later that season he made his Southern League debut in a Division Two match against Reading, although his main obligations at that time were to Ilford Alliance F.C. Later he played for Wanstead, the main amateur club in the district. Webb, a toy manufacturer and freemason, remained an amateur throughout his career and his appearances were always restricted by his business commitments. In six years with Hammers he never played more than six matches in succession and George Shea once said that Webb led too crowded a life. He scored on his senior debut, against Leyton on the 9th April 1909 in a 1-0 victory at the Boleyn, but reserved his best displays for F.A. Cup games and internationals. He hit two of Hammers' five at Wolves in 1910 and all three against First Division Preston the following season. Illness ruled him out of the latter part of 1911-12 and he began the next season with Manchester City but after injury and then a financial dispute with City, he dropped out of League football.

Born: 4 May, 1887, Poplar, London

Southern Lge apps 52 (gls 23) Cup: 10 (gls 9)

Died: 28 March 1915, West Ham (aged 27)

George Webb - Wedding Day George Webb - Youngster WEBB George 01

Thomas Hone, Albert Hone (Pam's grandfather) and George Webb

George Webb on his Wedding Day

George Webb's Amateur International Cap

              England v. Denmark 1911

Family Album

Season     League:       goals     Cup:     goals

1908-09         4               2             0           0

1909-10       18               7             4           5

1910-11       19             10             4           3

1911-12       11               4             2           1